Dr. Bill Warner, Theoretical Physicist, who began studying Islam in the 1980’s. He is a scientist gathering data (truth), assembling the data, and presenting the truth. You have never heard these facts. I thought I knew a great deal about Islam, but the real history has not been taught or talked about. Please get informed. In the Islamic sacred texts, we are the enemy (Infidels, Kafirs and Dhemmis) and can be lied to, subjugated, and killed. The interesting part of the Islamic world-view, is that Jews and Christians are bad, but so are atheists, pagans, and apologists. Only adherers of Islam are safe, unless you’re not seen as “Muslim enough”.
- Political Islam http://www.politicalislam.com/ This has nothing to do with the religion of Islam, except that the religion and politics, or law, are tied together and inseparable.
- Video of his presentation “Why We Are Afraid?“- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y Those who don’t learn history… are doomed to repeat it. This video shows slides with the historical progression of Islam through Christian countries for 1400-years. Counter to Obama’s claims, the remarkable Muslim scientific advancements came from Christian Arabs in Syria and Turkey. Find out who was intolerant. Understand how hundreds of thousands of Christian churches were destroyed, hundreds of thousands of non-Muslim’s were killed, libraries destroyed, trade destroyed, and the slavery of white Europeans began. Necessary rape of women is written into the texts of Islam. People had two options: Islamic conversion or death. Women committed suicide to avoid sex slavery. This is no picnic, people! Know thy enemy.
- “A Warning to America“, May 2011 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn7rtiYT0go&feature=related
- How does Islam treat their women? Read the “Bulletin of the Oppression of Women” – http://bulletinoftheoppressionofwomen.com/
- The 5 principles of Islam http://www.politicalislam.com/principles/pages/five-principles/
A German’s view on Islam – worth the read. http://caldwellteaparty.org/2012/10/06/a-germans-view-on-islam/
Outlining the 5 Pilars, Quran Sharia Law, jihad, intentional deception, and a glossary.
The Project details, experts, links, and the On Demand link to watch it on TheBlaze.com.
“Radical Islam: Threat or not?” http://caldwellteaparty.org/2012/05/30/act/ Contains videos and commentary. These are some of the best videos I’ve seen.
I have it on great authority that Brigitte Gabriel’s organization, Act 4 America, is THE real deal. They are fighting the bad-player, Islamic organizations, like CAIR. Act4America is dedicated to spreading the truth about Islamists and jihadists. Alerting everyone that there are peaceful Muslims following Islam. And there are those who are dedicated to radical, violent Islam that is working to establish Shariia Law around the world (Caliphate). They are called Islamists (CAIR, NAIT, ISNA).
Shariamerica: Islam, Obama, and the Establishment Clause
Ex-CIA Official: Ground Zero Mosque ‘Symbol of Victory’ for Extremists
See the entire article and watch the video interview. This is a warning from a guy who knows. http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/scheuer-bin-laden-ground/2010/08/26/id/368530?s=al&promo_code=A9E5-1
The base and focus of this argument is that IT is about the horrific attack on U.S. soil and NYC residents, IT is NOT about Islam or religious tolerance at all. How about American families, U.S. soil that was attacked that does not have to accept or change? Why is it that the political correct liberal media crowd think that it is always a burden for the U.S. to prove its “tolerance” or for the U.S. to accept anything at all and not a burden of proof for those trying to impose on America. Mr. Rauf is the visitor here who has burden of responsibility that needs to adapt to America, it is political and Mr. Rauf knows it and should be ashamed. It is quite evident that erecting a huge Mosque building at ground zero is a statement of utter disrespect. Rauf’s statement further exposes his intent is not peaceful. NO, Mr. Rauf calling HIS PROBLEM of simply having some decency, common sense, moving his building a National security concern, is a threat. An over-blown threat that Americans reject.
It is as if people feel that Christianity is synonymous with the USA, this just isn’t true. We are not at war with Muslims, just like we are not at war with Jews, Catholics, Wiccans, Buddhist, or myriad other religions. So what does it matter if there is a mosque near the site of the terrorist bombings. This was a horrible event but it should not have any bearing on how or where American citizens worship; whom or whatever they choose. I am an educated tax paying white American citizen who finds it offensive when people ignore my countries freedom of religion.
I respectfully disagree with you. I believe they are taunting us. Please do a little research onto the name and it’s historical significance of the mosque, Cordoba. I think that if a decent group of people were involved in making this huge, mega mosque, they would HEAR the public outcry and move their project. Yep, I am saying these people behind THIS MOSQUE are acting with an indecent and wrong manner. They are not building community bridges here. NO ONE is saying they don’t have a 1st Amendment right to build and worship – just not there. There are already 126 Mosques in NYC, and the public is not protesting any of those.
Christine I respect your right to disagree, that is another great thing about the USA. However this is one of those “slippery slope” issues that if we begin condemnation for any reason that involves the religion itself, it will help set a precedent for the future. Our right to freedom of religion is not written with “but, or, and except” and we should never imply that it is. I would be more upset if I found out that Pastor Junior G. McCormick or Pastor Fred Phelps had plans to build a Church near my home or a school in Lenoir, but at the same time I would have to agree that they had the right to do so. Every religion or actually group of people usually has a branch of folks who think left or right of center. Once we start distorting the Bill of Rights to read the way a mainstream thinks that they should be interpreted we may as well chuck the whole thing in the trash and give Kim Jong Il a call and tell him to run our country.
This was just sent to me. I hope you understand. There is no slippery slope here. It’s right and wrong. This isn’t even a religious freedom issue.
History of Islam and how they build VICTORY MOSQUES
by Pamela Kafir Liner on Monday, September 6, 2010 at 3:46pm
The HISTORY OF ISLAM may hold answers to WHY it is so important for Moslems to build that GROUND ZERO MOSQUE..
In 630, Muhammad led 10,000 Muslim soldiers into Mecca and turned the pagans’ most prominent spot, the Ka’aba, into the Masjid al-Haram Mosque.
In 634, Rightly Guided Caliph Umar conquered Syria and turned the Christians’ most prominent spot, the Church of Job, famous for being visited by Saint Silva in the fourth century, into the Mosque of Job.
In 637, Caliph Umar conquered Hebron and turned the second-most prominent spot in Judaism, the Cave of the Patriarchs, into the Ibrahimi Mosque. (This was repeated by Saladin in 1188.)
In 638, Muslim generals Amr ibn al-As and Khalid ibn al-Walid conquered Gaza and turned the prominent fifth-century Byzantine church into the Great Mosque of Gaza.
In 638, Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem.
In 691, Caliph Al-Malik ordered the _Dome of the Rock_ built on the most prominent spot in Judaism, the Temple Mount, followed by Caliph Al-Walid building the Al-Aqsa Mosque there in 705.
In 651, Muslims conquered Persia and turned Zoroastrian temples in Bukhara and Istakhr into mosques.
In 706, after Muslims took Damascus from the Byzantine Empire, Caliph Al-Walid turned the prominent Orthodox Church of St. John the Baptist into the Umayyad Mosque.
In 710, Gen. Muhammad bin Qasim conquered Pakistan, defiled the prominent Sun Temple in Multan, which house the great idol “sanam,” and erected a mosque.
In 784, after the conquest of Spain, Emir Abd ar-Rahman turned the prominent Visigothic Christian Church of Saint Vincent into the Great Aljama Mosque of Cordoba. After the conquest of Egypt, Caliphs al-Mamun (813-833) and al-Hakim (996-1021) turned prominent Coptic Christian churches and Jewish synagogues in Cairo into mosques.
In 831, Muslims conquered Palermo, Sicily, and Asad ibn al-Furat turned the prominent Church of Saint Mary of the Assumption into the Great Mosque of Bal’harm. In 1193, Muslims conquered Delhi, India, and Qutbuddin Aibak turned the Red Citadel in Dhillika, the most prominent spot of the last Hindu rulers, into the Qutb Minar Mosque.
From 1250-1517, Mamluk Muslims controlled the Golan Heights and used the ancient Synagogue of Katzrin as a mosque.
In 1387, Turkish Muslims conquered Thessaloniki and turned the Katholikon Monastery and the Church of Aghia Sophia, which housed the relics of Saint Gregorios Palamas, into mosques, as Symeon of Thessaloniki recorded: “The greatest number of the buildings of the churches fell to them, of which _the first_ was the Holy Church of the Savior. … These were trampled underfoot and the infidels rejoiced in them. … Most of thhe religious buildings in the city were despoiled, while altars were demolished and sacred things profaned.”
On May 29, 1453, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Constantinople and turned the great Byzantine church, Hagia Sophia, into the Ayasofya Mosque. The _largest_ church in Christendom for a thousand years, the church’s four acres of gold mosaics were covered with whitewash and Quran verses.
In 1458, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Athens and turned the Greeks’ most prominent spot, the Parthenon on Acropolis hill, into a mosque. When Venetian Gen. Francesco Morosini drove the Muslims out in 1687, a cannonball hit the gunpowder stored in the mosque, blowing it up. In the 15th century, Ottoman invaders turned Saint Clement’s Macedonian Orthodox Monastery in Plaosnik, Balkans, into the Imater Mosque.
From 1519-1858, Muslim Mughal rulers gained control of India and turned over 2,000 Hindu temples into mosques, including demolishing the Temple of Ram Janmabhoomi in Ayodhya, the birthplace of Rama, and replacing it with the Babri Mosque. India’s Mughal Muslim ruler, Jahangir (1605-1627), wrote in Tujuk-i-Jahangiri: “At the city of Banaras [was] a temple. … I made it my plea for thhrowing down the temple … and on the spot, with the very same materials,, I erected the great mosque.”
In 1543, Hayreddin Barbarossa’s 30,000 Muslim troops wintered in Toulon, France, and turned the prominent Toulon Cathedral into a mosque.
In 1570, under Sultan Selim II Khan, Muslims conquered Paphos, Cyprus, and Gov. Mehmet Bey Ebubkir turned the prominent Christian church into the Great Mosque of Paphos.
In 1571, Muslims invaded Famagusta, Cyprus, and turned Saint Nicolas Cathedral, a rare Gothic church, into the Lala Mustafa Pasha Mosque, and Saint Sophia Cathedral in Nicosia, constructed in 1228, into the Selimiye Mosque.
In 1588, Sultan Murat III turned the Eastern Orthodox Church of Saint John the Forerunner in Constantinople into the Hirami Ahmet Pasha Mosque.
In 1781, after having conquered the Old City of Acre, Ottoman Muslims turned the Roman Catholic church built by Crusaders into the Jezzar Ahmet Pasha Mosque, where a hair from Muhammad’s beard is preserved.
In 1923, Muslims expelled Greeks from Turkey and turned Orthodox churches into mosques. In World War II, Nazis allied with Bosnians and turned the prominent Artists’ Gallery Museum in Zagreb, Croatia, into a mosque.
In the 1950s, Muslims expelled Jews from Arab lands and turned synagogues into mosques. Algerian Muslims warred against French colonial rule till France pulled out in 1962, after which the Cathedral of St. Philippe was turned into the Ketchaoua Mosque. Violence against Jews caused 30,000 to flee and the Great Synagogue of Oran was turned into the Mosque Abdellah Ben Salem.
In 1974, Turkish Muslims invaded northern Cyprus, and prominent Greek Orthodox churches were turned into mosques. In 1981, Muslim immigrants to the Netherlands converted Amsterdam’s historic Catholic Sint-Ignatiuskerk into the Fatih Mosque, and a synagogue in The Hague into the Aksa Mosque.
William J. Federer is the author of: “What Every American Needs to Know About the Quran: A History of Islam and the United States.”
Victory Mosque if we allow it. Speak out America
I want to say that I love how much you guys care for our country, just the fact that you care enough to post on here tells me that you are passionate, however I do have to say that passion for your beliefs can only get you so far. You have to whole heartedly know the reasons of why you feel how you feel but then immerse yourself in the beliefs of the opposite side of the fence to truly understand why they feel so strongly about their beliefs. What I am basically saying is that you need to be educated in both sides to truly dispute against them. I see all these posts speaking on the violence of Islam but no one mentioning the violence of Christians. Christianity has taken more lives than all the other religions combined but yet we still have a church on every corner of every street here in the “bible belt”. When the Puritans landed on our coastline they did so to avoid and distance themselves from religious persecution…..It seems the British didn’t share their beliefs and were not going to be happy until they converted them all, so they left and travelled to a “new” land to find their freedom of religion. The problem was that this land was already inhabited by a large population of Native Americans……these Americans didn’t share the same beliefs as the Puritans so what did our “Christian” people do? We let them teach us how to live off their lands and then we used our technology and sicknesses to nearly wipe them out if they didn’t convert to the Puritans ways. As you know the select few that were left alive were forced to walk the “Trail of Tears” and live on small plots of land. Is this the Christianity that our country was founded on? Were we exercising our new found religious freedom by taking away the freedom of others?……….Does that sound nice and loving and warm or does it sound exactly like what is going on now? What we have done is persecute a whole group just because of the actions of a few! Do we hate all Germans for Hitlers actions, Do we hate Cubans because of Castro, Do we hate Russians because of Stalin??? The answer to these questions should always be “NO” but the sad thing about this country is that this is not always the case……Does everyone remember Pearl Harbor? I’m sure that you do it was a terrible tragedy that hit all of America in the heart but do you remember the horrible atrocity that America commited afterward? We rounded up all the Japanese Americans who were here to create a better life for themselves and we put them in “Internment Camps” AKA “Concentration Camps”!!! We destroyed many lives by doing that and every official or scholar will now agree that it was the wrong thing to do. Is that what we should do now, round up every American Muslim and put them in a camp where they can never hurt another American? Islam is the largest Religion in the world and the amount of violence on a percentage basis is very small. The “Holy Bible” contains over 550 violent verses compared to a little over 300 vionet verses in the “Quran”! Both of these religions are based on the same principles of each other in that they both contain Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and both religions tell you to kill those that do not share your faith or try to sway you to believe in their faiths. In the KJV bible James 4:4 says “A friend of the world is the enemy of God”…………does this sound like peace or love? The Mosque is two blocks away from ground zero and is actually a family center with a chapel and if it has any message to send to Americans whatsoever it should be this “We are nothing like the extremists who commited this act and would like to show that by worshipping the god of our choice in this great country that allows us this freedom”. If we force them to move their mosque or we have churches burning Qurans then the terrorists did win and for the most part you were their soldiers on the frontlines helping them win with our hypocrisy and bigotry! America does NOT mean Christian……I have no religion in my life whatsoever but I have made it a hobby of mine to study religion out of interest in human behavior so I am not saying this with any favorites in mind, I am merely suggesting that we dod not throw stones in a glass house here……Please remember why we came to America……………Freedom of speech, religion, right to bear arms, freedom of press…….if we lose these key principles then we’ve lost the 223 years its taken us to build this great nation. So with that being said I hope that Al Qaida is wiped off the face of the planet and that all the ones responsible meet justice however I have absolutely no problem with Islam or anyone that wants practice it in our country regardless of the location. Your actions are fueling the extremists fire by giving them reason to hate us more and proving that we are intolerant of them. It seems Christians in politics truly want America to change to suit them if you need proof look at the ban on Gay Marriages, Protests of Abortion, Intelligent Design……..We are all different with different values and if we can ever learn to accept that then one day we may find peace!
Several observations here. Number one… You just preached about “knowing” the “others” side… I know the other “side” extremely well. Undoubtedly, you don’t. We are at home in OUR country. Don’t come here and expect me to change MY country for YOU. period. We are an established country based on the belief in a supreme being whether you or the liberals or the atheists like it or not. The Preamble for EVERY state in this union gives credit to GOD for allowing us to settle this great land. Not a few but EVERY single state recognizes Christianity and the belief in god. There is no further spin that you can put on this fact. Just read them. EVERYONE should read them. The federal side is not worded the same way as the states but that doesn’t trump anything for any reason. Second… You accused us of “fanning the flames” of the extremists… Bull crap! This started long ago and had nothing to do with me and you but it is going to get worse. You preached about “tolerance”…for the record…There is no “tolerance” in Islam for Christianity….I’m just returning the favor.
You say that we aren’t in a war with “islam” and your only half correct.
We are actually in a war against an IDEOLOGY….. and thats what is going on right now as we speak.. We are against something that is a totalitarian, theocratic, political ideoligie and it is called “Islam”. This is not about Muslims…. as in Nazi germany, not all germans were nazi’s. It’s just the same in Iraq, not every Iraqi was a member of the baath party. What we are talking about here is an ideology that has existed since 622 ad. It got started with a thing called the naklah raid, which was after mohammed made his hijra leaving mecca going out to medina, It has been violent ever since. It has confronted western civilization now and this is just another chapter in the long book that they are writing to conquer each and every one of us. And now, it is our time, and just as forefathers had to stand and turn these enemies back, we must now stand and turn these enemies back, and we must start today. we have heard talk of abrogation. You need to understand things such as the treaty of Hudaibiyah, they will sit and decieve you by holding off so that they can become strong, which is how back in about 627 ad, Mohammed was able to go in and overtake mecca. The exact same thing is happening now. YOU need to understand the traditions of mohammed. When he wrote letters to Chosroes, the Persian emperor, when he wrote letters to Heraclius, the Byzantine emperor, those letters stated , “you have three choices. You convert, you subjugate, or you die”. Well guess what …love, peace and chicken grease. ….. in 1992 Osama Bin Laden did the exact same thing. He sent a letter to the united states warning the American people that we had three choices….. we see how that turned out. In 2005 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad did the exact same thing. He sent a letter to the American people and president Bush. SAME three choices!! Your heart blinds you to the facts…We are already in a declared war, and if we don’t have the type of leadership that can understand this enemy, this adversary,…… we are on the road to perdition. Sharia law is incompatible with who we are and what we stand for. Islam is not about freedom, It is not about liberty, it is not about protecting human or womens rights, which is what America stands for…. It is about what Islam says: Islam, the word, means “submission”. BTW comparing the Bible and the Koran is like comparing pears and oranges…. The bible contains 608 pages. The Koran contains 6,236 verses, 114 chapters, 30 books…approximately 450 pages. Also, if god is not “real”…then why study him at all? Why not study Scooby Doo or foghorn leghorn?? Their fictitious beings. No one will argue passionately about scooby though, will they?
During the year 1786 Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to speak with Tripoli’s Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. Jefferson and Adams asked the Ambassador
how can they make war on nations that have done nothing to them? The Ambassador replied that “It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every Muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy’s ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once”.
I still cannot believe how far in reverse our way of thinking has become in America! We came to this land so that we could have the right to worship whom or whatever we wanted….we stole the Indians land and basically forced them to take on our way of life….if they didn’t we gave them small plots to live on. Then after Pearl Harbor we rounded up the Japanese into entearnment camp aka(concentration camps) because of the actions of a few we cannot hate or persecute a whole culture. Islam is now the largest religion in the world with only a select few extremists tarnishing their name. More people have died over Christianity than all the religions combined. The Bible has over 500 violent versus compared to 330 in the Quran so neither of them can be called “peaceful. Do we hate Germans because of Hitler, Cubans for Castro, Russians for Stalin…..the answer is “no”! You give the extremists power with these debates….this is what they wanted…..so if your goal is to fuel their fire and endanger our troops then congratulations you are now an intolerant soldier on their frontlines! The mosque is actually being built two blocks away just so you know, in closing I will state that I have no religion but “happiness” so I play no favorites. I just want to see a world that can be harmonious with all, shapes, colors, and creeds….. I love this country and all the individualism that it allows each one of it’s citizens to have!!!
I do not think something so trivial as religion is worth fighting over. The Holy Bible does contain more violence than the Quran. It was not muslims that attacked America. It was terrorists. They happened to be muslim. This same group declared a holy war, however the muslims as a whole did not.
You cannot persecute a whole group for actions of a few of its members.
Or if you disagree with this statement then I should be able to formally press charges against the entire Christian Community just because a couple Christians have been intolerant of my beliefs. I am an atheist living in the bible belt… it is obvious I will receive disapproval and discrimination.
It was said by a great professor of mine that history begins with ideologies.
Ideologies lead to more in depth thought on the subject, which leads to action on the matter, which leads to history being formed. It is also a general rule that competing ideologies will clash, just as competing states in Europe built themselves up, then decimated themselves with two world wars.
It’s about time people abandon their ignorant ways and become aware of their chain of actions…. and begin to tolerate other ideologies, before there is an escalation to the point of world war based on religion.
Are you so blind that you don`t understand dhimmitude? See Europe for what is coming to America.The most important thing is to keep the conversation going. Keep them in the open as somebody here said. Don’t do what we do in Holland. Don’t cover up the extremism, don’t make up excuses, don’t treat these people as little children but take them seriously. And never, ever accept the notion that voicing disagreement is an insult to Islam.
Read more at: http://www.investigativeproject.org/comments/2338
There’s nothing more to say to you Josh and Jeremy. We will have to just disagree. I deeply believe you are wrong.
I agree Christine. This sounds like the same tired Rhetoric that we hear from the left all the time. Nothing they mentioned , although tried , has worked. Doesn’t matter to me if it’s a harmless black snake or a copperhead… bottom line is… it’s a snake…why take the chance?
Exatly Home Grown Radio, bottom line its a snake and it will bite you, nothing in this coumtry is simple anymore, it is truely a melting pot, that is all good, but if you put the wrong ingredients in that pot it may also bite you, or blow up in your face.
I find it very humorous that when listening to you radical Christians state your point that I could bleep out the name of your religion and your dialog is almost interchangeable with the radical Muslims. Either way it sounds like fighting words from a group of folks who are condemning another group of folks because they believe that their invisible spirit in the sky, who can make them live forever if they symbolically eat his flesh and tell him telepathically that they accept him as their master, so that he can remove an evil force from their soul that is present because a “rib woman” was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree, is more real than their invisible spirit.
“Radical Christians”?? I’d love to hear your definition of radical Christian. And once again, the premise of your ridiculous statement above is wrong.
You wanna try again?
I don’t think you are a radical Christine. I actually respect your opinion. I can’t say the same for some of the other posters since all of their ranting sounds pretty radical to me.
You are still avoiding the question. Show me (other than my last post) a radical statement on this board.
Sorry, I meant Eddie
You think between your chin and your nose don’t you? We didn’t start this fire but to listen to you… we did. I don’t know who’s side your on, if any, but you have got to take the blinders off and lay off the cough syrup. Whether your a Christian or not, doesn’t make a bit of difference to these people. They are going to kill you for not believing in Islam…. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!! I know you don’t believe in Christianity….. Do you believe in Islam? If you think Christians are “radical” just wait till sharia law is instituted. The problem with you people is that you believe so many things that you perception and common sense gets clouded and you just spin around in circles in a mythical utopia. Christine and I have put enough evidence on this board (from their own ideology) That there is nothing left to talk about. You just wanna spin, spin, spin…. your a contrarian that just likes to shoot off at the mouth. That’s it, period. You have put no logical argument or evidence on this board and your posts are completely intellectually bankrupt. I don’t care if you don’t believe in Christ or Christianity, It’s really none of my business but I’ll tell what is my business…. When you get on here shooting off at the mouth and degrading MY religion and personal beliefs. Your entitled to your views, why can’t we have ours without the demonization and ignorance of the facts being spewed out by you?? Is your opinion the only one that counts? WHAT POINT ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ??? Prior to this post…..Show me just ONE “radical” statement here….. Where is it? you people with your distortions and propaganda make me sick. YOU are the reason that this country is in the shape it’s in today. I believe that you are in the “blame America first” crowd and you want to see Islam take over….. well, Not on my watch. WARNING! RADICAL STATEMENT: I will fight all of them to keep this country as it is and if you are on their side… you’ll go down also. period.
Eddie and Josh. Any muslim who does not practice all tenets of islam is either apostate or committing taqqiyya. http://www.investigativeproject.org/1100/hizb-ut-tahrir-shariah-takes-precedence-over-us